Chasseur Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 The majority of my build is found on Model Ship World from its inception however... I'll post a few pictures here as well for people to view. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7581-preussen-clipper-by-chasseur-ship-in-bottle/ Steady as she goes! I had some time the last couple of days to get back into the hobby and do some work in my Man Cave. I am just in the stage of roughing out the hull and getting all of the sheer lines correct etc. The stern will be a hurdle in itself as I have to get the waist just right as it curves up to the rudder section. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwyl Blaser Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Jeff, Looks like a nice start. The smell of cedar wood will help make any project more fun. I'll be following this build as she progresses. Gwyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasseur Posted April 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Yeah I too love the smell of the wood, easy to carve, and it really polishes out nice when rubbing it with 3000 grit paper. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSiemens Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I need to get more into sand paper. I bought a few grades when I first started and I think I'm still using bits and pieces of the same pack. Highest grain I have is 200. Probably time to get something finer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipbuilder Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 I always find the hulls much more difficult and time-consuming than the rigging, but I don't have to make the rigging fold down, so that is a huge problem that I don't have to contend with. Here are two shots of my Preussen. One is low angle, showing the shape of the counter stern - it took me ages to develop a good method of making counters. The other image is complete, and all ready for the sea. Bob tazam0827, Raindog, JesseLee and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSiemens Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Very impressive Bob! Your mention of the counter stern reminded me of a technique I saw used for a counter stern. I thought it was interesting. http://www.folkartinbottles.com/workshop/building-instructions-/110-build-the-cutty-sark- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipbuilder Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Thanks, I use a similar method, but the horizontal insert is made from brass shim at the level of the knuckle. That enables me to carve the slope down to it without losing the sharpness. Attached is a good view of a typical steel counter, showing the complex shape. I still cannot imagine how Jeff is going to make five masts, sails and rigging fold down and go in the bottle. It is something I would never even attempt. I am particulary interested in this build because I am one of the few who prefers the big iron and steel square-riggers to the ever-popular tea clippers or Napoleonic warships. Bob IgorSky and Chasseur 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Bellinger Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Way to go Jeff! I have put off Preussen far too long, and will be inspired by your effort. Alex Chasseur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwyl Blaser Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Bob, the way the fore sails lay is very realistic. Jeff, I also want to build a Preussen some day. Hopefully your build will give me the inspiration I need to tackle a multi mast like this one. Gwyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasseur Posted April 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Gents, Thanks for the dialogue here and I love the photo's of Robert's model and the counter stern. Robert you are correct the hull of the Preussen is a challenge in itself. Lots going on however I really love the lines. Hats off to the naval engineer and draftsmen who designed this beauty. And yes...getting the five masts fully rigged is a huge challenge however I am up for it when the time comes. I have a few tricks up my sleeve as I have been researching this beauty for a little over a year now. Steady as she goes, slow but sure or as I stated on MSW go big or go home! Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasseur Posted May 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Well... real life got in my way big time however I am now off on vacation for a week. I immediately went into the man cave and started back at it. The first picture shows the wooden seas hollowed out and working on installing two small piece's of styrofoam as filler next to where the rudder section goes. I had to do this as I needed the adequate clearance to get the hull at the right depth. Next two shots show where I carved down the stern so I could gauge how deep to go when carving. I also wanted to show some rudder detail The next two photo's show me working the modeling paste. I can't say enough about Artist's Loft Acrylic Acedemic Level 1 modeling paste. This stuff works well, gives adequate time to sculpt, dries really hard, and it even drills. The stuff is awesome! One thing that makes this technique tricky is... I have to eventually cut apart all four pieces to get them into the bottle. The intention is to model as much as possible outside of the bottle, paint it up, and finish the touch ups in the bottle. I will take Dave's advice and go to WallMart and purchase some mini magnets. The ones I bought are too big. More to come ... Jeff Edited May 17, 2015 by Chasseur Lboro, Alex Bellinger, IgorSky and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwyl Blaser Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Jeff, she is looking great. I too like the look of your seas. It has the look of very real white caps and splashes. Very nice. Gwyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasseur Posted May 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Thanks. I also cut it all apart to ensure it would go into the bottle. To date I have the magnets installed and that turned out good. Next step is to paint it up and just leave the final splashes on the lower part of the hull until it's installed in the bottle. Also I think I'll drip a little of Woodland Scenics water effects next to the hull to get that transparency look. Will post some progress soon... Got tied up a bit working on the younger son's muscle car. Jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasseur Posted May 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2015 Quick update! Jeff http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7581-preussen-clipper-by-chasseur-ship-in-bottle/page-7#entry319001 DSiemens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwyl Blaser Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 Looking good Jeff. I am looking forward to more updates. Gwyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSiemens Posted May 25, 2015 Report Share Posted May 25, 2015 I agree she's coming a long nicely. Your getting to the fun parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipbuilder Posted May 26, 2015 Report Share Posted May 26, 2015 Why not put images on here as well, as this is a specialised site for SIBs? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasseur Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 I will Bob ... please be patient! Jeff Gwyl Blaser and IgorSky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasseur Posted June 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Life has been very busy however some progress has been made. Seas are painted up and final touch-ups will have to be done inside of the bottle. I have to also add; some spray detail by the hull, some Woodland Scenic water effects by the hull to show some transparency as well, aforementioned done inside the bottle. Cracks will get tighter once conformed in the bottle. Steady as she goes! Dental pick to show the scale..... Happy Father's Day to all who read this.... Jeff Lboro, Robjames, JesseLee and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwyl Blaser Posted June 21, 2015 Report Share Posted June 21, 2015 Hey Jeff. This is looking real good! What do you think of the Woodland Scenic water? Is it easy to use and mold? Gwyl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasseur Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I have used it in the past. It definitely has its advantages in the right applications. For my purpose I will use the liquid style they make and pour it through a tube. They also make the type railroaders use to model waterfalls which would work well for sprays, splashes, etc. It all boils down to what your comfortable with. There was a Japaneese fellow who had a post on You Tube that used silicon for waves. I tried it but didn't like the outcome. One thing about Woodland's products which I like ... is you can tint it with whatever color of acrylic paint you choose. Great for doing near shore or river water. Jeff Gwyl Blaser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fellingham Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) Woodland Scenics makes three water products. Jeff mentioned Water Effects which is similar to artist's gel medium. Here's their products: http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/Water I used several Woodland Scenics products in Ogallala to model the tall grass prairie. They provide excellent instructions and videos for their products. Edited June 22, 2015 by Dave Fellingham Gwyl Blaser and Chasseur 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipbuilder Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Jeff, I have just been looking at the Preussen build on MSW from the 1st posting to the last. It has given me the impression that this is the first SIB that you have attempted - is this correct? Having built two Preussen's (one under sail and one with sails furled), I realise what a complicated vessel it is! I could not even start to think how I could make all that rigging fold down and up again! How many sails do you intend to set? Will the staysails be set between the masts? It is certainly a mighty ambitious project at that scale which works out at about 71 feet to one inch. You mention laminated spars, and again, I wonder how it could be done on that scale. The last entry on MSW is someone concerned about copyright of the material you put on there. As the plans are only part of the main picture, there is no copyright infringement, as the model is the main feature and the part plans are of secondary concern. I am fascinated by this build, and look forward to more progress. I can see how the sea will all go together inside the bottle now. Bob Chasseur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipbuilder Posted July 30, 2015 Report Share Posted July 30, 2015 Are you still building the Preussen? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chasseur Posted August 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Yes... might do some work on her tomorrow! Spent all day today working on the son's Nova SS. Jeff Gwyl Blaser 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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