Dave Fellingham Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 David, This touches on an area of confusion that has always made me a little uneasy. Frequently listing of spar dimensions, usually for clippers, have separate dimensions for royal and skysail masts when in most cases there is only a single continuous stick, the topgallant. I have always assumed these dimensions identify where the topgallant stay and shrouds will be attached, therefore the hoist of the topgallant yard. and further up for the royal stay, skysail, etc. The main advantage of these dimensions for model makers is getting a firmer idea where the yards should be. Do you know of anything confirming this? I only know of a couple of big Webb clippers - Comet and Young America - that had separate royal masts, set up on doublings above the topgallants. I have never heard of any of the smaller American frigates with skysails but have not been especially looking for them either. Always wanted to try one of them but still haven't gotten around to it. Alex Again from the same book by Chapelle, in the beginning of the Appendix, he briefly comments on the lack of standards for measuring masts when surveys were made. I assume that the men taking the measurements were likely to later be involved in the re-fit to follow so it didn't really matter - to them - how they were measured, but it causes problems for those who want to use that information 200 years later. In all the tables in Chapelle he says that where head lengths are listed for lower and topsail masts, and heads aren't listed for topgallant, royal and skysail masts, that mast is one piece. As you mentioned, four piece masts were very rare and were not used until much later. Correctly interpreting the data from such tables is an area of concern for me as well. I haven't looked at the three smaller frigates very closely either; if I ever decide to build one I'd start with the assumption that they didn't carry skysails unless I have good evidence to the contrary. To be honest, I'd be more inclined to build one of the ship-rigged sloops (Hornet, Wasp (#2), Frolic or Peacock) than Congress, Constellation or Chesapeake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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