DMC1964 Posted May 24 Report Share Posted May 24 To misquote The Most Interesting Man in the World, "I don't often post build logs, but when I do, I usually do it after I've finished the model..." I'm breaking that rule with this build. We'll just see how it goes. I've decided to build the yacht America in a bottle. First, the boat is lovely. Second, I have no end of research materials available, so I should use it. Several years ago, I bought the Chappelle plans from the Smithsonian. I have the book The Low Black Schooner, which, even if you don't want to build a model, is a great book. And I have a great set of rigging diagrams and plans, so, at least from that perspective, I have what I need. I had a couple of bottles to choose from and I cleaned off the labels. I scanned an image of America from Chappelle's The Search for Speed Under Sail and scaled it to fit in the smaller bottle. Rather than monkey around with the "sea" as I did on my first ship in a bottle, I'm going for the full hull on this one. The hull lines of America are so striking that it would be a shame to just show her from the waterline up. So, off to carving a hull and seeing what's going to be needed to get it into the bottle. Dan John Fox III, Onni, JesseLee and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Fox III Posted May 25 Report Share Posted May 25 Greetings Dan, Good for you! That is the exact reason I always build full hull ship models. Anchor's A Weigh! John Fox III Onni 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvaro004 Posted June 21 Report Share Posted June 21 Hello: Wishing to see the evolution of that work... It looks very good. Greatings. JesseLee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC1964 Posted August 5 Author Report Share Posted August 5 I've made some progress on my America. Using John Fox's article from 1988 in Model Ship Builder, I made the hull blank. I sandwiched a thin piece of basswood between two others, establishing a keel line for the hull below the waterline. I used 0.010" styrene to establish a waterline. And then I cut another piece of basswood for the upperworks. I turned a couple of toothpicks down to 1/16" to pin them all together. I've made two templates, mounting them on basswood. Here's the side view. So now my question. I decided on the size of the ship based on the internal dimensions of the bottle. Is that the right way to think about this? I made the blank per the article: 3/4" thick, 1-1/8" wide, about 4" long. That'll make a model the same size as John's Bluenose. Bluenose's hull lines are similar to America's, but the yacht carried a lot more sail area. so the model would be taller than the inside the bottle if I built it to the same dimensions as Bluenose. So, do I build it a little bigger and find a bottle that will fit later? Or build it small and fit it into the bottle I have? Dan JesseLee, John Fox III and Onni 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvaro004 Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 Hi. Keep the proportions and scale, that's how I understand these constructions... so either you find a bigger bottle or it's dry docked to wait for its bottle and then make one smaller than the dimensions and proportions between hull and sail is the authentic. That's my way of thinking. Greetings, it looks nice. Onni, DMC1964 and JesseLee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC1964 Posted Friday at 09:41 PM Author Report Share Posted Friday at 09:41 PM I've crossed the Rubicon. I scaled up the drawings to fit the hull blank I have. (I used the plans redrawn by Howard Chapelle in 1933.) That made the model too wide to fit through the neck of the bottle I have, so I will definitely need a bigger bottle. I marked the outline of the hull, the waterline, the locations of the masts and the locations of the aligning pins on the drawings and then lined all that up on the hull blank. I mounted the drawings on 1/16" basswood, creating templates. Next step: trace the hull lines from the template to the hull blank and then use my razor saw to cut down from the top of the block to the top of the cap rail to form the sheer of the hull. Dan Onni, John Fox III, JesseLee and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC1964 Posted Sunday at 02:25 PM Author Report Share Posted Sunday at 02:25 PM Yesterday, I cut the hull block down to the lines on the plan view. it was a simple enough operation, but I took it slowly to make sure I didn't go too far. Now the hull is about 15/16" wide and 3-15/16" long. Today I'll transfer the side view of the boat to the block and cut the top of the block down to the top of the caprail. Dan Onni and John Fox III 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Fox III Posted Sunday at 06:26 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 06:26 PM Greetings Dan, You will find it better in future to cut the hull block sandwich to the side/profile view first, then the plan view. When you place the profile view to an already cut plan view you will find that the profile view is too short. Basically, the curved side is longer than a straight side would be. Just a hint for future reference. Anchor's A Weigh! John Fox III JesseLee and Onni 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC1964 Posted Monday at 02:33 PM Author Report Share Posted Monday at 02:33 PM Thanks, John! I'd thought I would do that initially, but then cut from the top view. Live and learn. It looks like it's going to work out alright. I traced the waterline on the back of the template so I could position it properly on the other side of the hull block. Then I clamped the template to the hull block. And traced it out... Here you can see the outline and the waterline drawn on the other side of the template. Now it's time to cut down to the cap rail and form the sheer of the hull. Dan John Fox III, JesseLee, Onni and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC1964 Posted 14 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 14 hours ago Quick update tonight. I've done the rough cutting of the block down to the hull lines. Next step is the most difficult -- I think -- final shaping of the hull. I'm not sure what the right tool is to do that. This model is so small that a rotary tool is probably too aggressive. And I'm thinking about making the kinds of hull templates you use when you're making a larger solid hull model. Without those I don't see how I can keep the hull symmetrical. Dan John Fox III, Alvaro004 and Onni 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Fox III Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago Greetings Dan, What you've done above is the same way I did, and would, do the hull carving to this point. I would definitely make some cross section templates, from copies of the body plan, to do the rest of the carving. Anchor's A Weigh! John Fox III Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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