Donald Posted March 21, 2020 Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 With this social isolation, and being newly retired, I thought I would launch into a new build. I bought some "plans" off ebay of the Mayflower for $5.00. Basically a few sheets of paper with some good information, ...but it's in German. At any rate I knew this ahead off time and just needed the basics to start. John Zuch, Bernard Kelly, Moab and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted March 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 I found a cool apothecary bottle that is pretty clean and clear that I think will work nicely. Onni, Moab, Bernard Kelly and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted March 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 I have not had much luck with split hulls so far, nor Galleon type ships because of their inherent shape. Being hard headed, and becoming more patient with each build, it has become a personal challenge to get a split hull properly in there. James w rogers, Onni, JesseLee and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted March 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 A little planking, cannon ports cut out. JesseLee, Onni, Bernard Kelly and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted March 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) How to get that shape in there? This has busted my brain a little, but I am going to go with a split deck in addition to the hull. Perhaps I am a glutton for punishment. Edited March 21, 2020 by Spanky Bernard Kelly, JesseLee, Onni and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted March 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) Slowly building her up, scuppers, more planking. I have been playing with this for a couple weeks and this is the point I am at currently. Edited March 21, 2020 by Spanky DSiemens, Bruce Foxworthy, Onni and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Foxworthy Posted March 22, 2020 Report Share Posted March 22, 2020 Beautiful ship coming along there Spanky.🤗 Donald 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted March 23, 2020 Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 Wow, the detail looks very good for something this small! Donald 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted March 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Working out the bow (prow?) section and how to get it through bottle neck without problems. exwafoo, James w rogers, DSiemens and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James w rogers Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 Looks great, nicely done! 😎 Donald 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted March 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2020 Working out some deck rails. exwafoo, DSiemens, IOAN and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted April 4, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2020 Made some grating, doors into the forecastle and ladder steps down it's front. Onni, JesseLee, James w rogers and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onni Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Nice details Spanky. Looks great. Donald and Bernard Kelly 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James w rogers Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Looking great, really well done!😎 Donald 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 Nice work. The good contrast of colours makes everything stand out well. JesseLee and Donald 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewH Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 Beautiful clean detail, Spanky Wonder how a poor matelot gets up to the Forecastle? There might be some rungs on the first post with a section of the bow that might be rungs for climbing andrew Donald 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 One step forward, two steps back. Made what I thought was a binnacle on the plans, until I realized they were not yet invented during the reign of the Mayflower. I also broke the rails on the upper deck so I will leave that for a little later. I managed a capstan, some stairs and a bit more grating. James w rogers, Bernard Kelly, exwafoo and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted April 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 Fixed up a life boat and oars. JesseLee, Onni, James w rogers and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James w rogers Posted April 11, 2020 Report Share Posted April 11, 2020 Looking awesome! 😎 Donald 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 Looking for some constructive thoughts or input here. I've been trying to be logical about how this is going to get into the bottle. Here is my plan. I want to use pins for the three masts to swivel up on. Since the hull is split at the center, I'm obligated to a one sided pin for the masts. Once in the bottle and the two halves are put together, I would raise the masts as normal. Once temporarily secure with lines sorted and untangled I would place the two top side halves in. Carefully placed together they will hug a fair bit of the foremast and mizzenmast, while the mainmast will have the only visible pin, ...on one side. Once the topsides are together I want to place ratlines etc. with pins attached, to mate with the hull. Wondering if this sounds like a viable solution? I know it won't be easy, but that's what makes it challenging. James w rogers, Bernard Kelly and John Zuch 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB773 Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 Hello, Spanky. I see you’re considering pegging the channels to the hull with the ratlines already secured. That idea would save a lot of individual line adjustments inside the bottle. So the careful adjusting would need to be done on the outside. I’m interested to see how you proceed. Looking good! David Bernard Kelly and Donald 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onni Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 With regards to pinning the ratlines to the side of the hull I have a friend who uses this method for his ships but uses only two pins to fix them in place. I could say it looks a bit fiddly method but then again I have never tried it myself. Cutting the hull down the centre line does create problems with the fixing of the masts later on. I have a feeling that if you use just wire on one side to fix the masts then they could swing around all over the place. I usually cut down the centre line but scoot around the mast areas so leaving that area solid and insert a complete deck over the cut to hide it,in other words a false deck. That really needs to be planned for at the beginning of the build though! Donald and Bernard Kelly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exwafoo Posted April 13, 2020 Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 I split mine off centre, usually with the stem and stern piece on the starboard side so any less than good joints are on the 'offside'. I've used the fixing the chainwales in the bottle method once, and I'm still trying to get the last one in place 2 and a half years later. I would use control lines to pull them into position if I ever use this way again. As has been said, its all a learning curve. Stay safe. Bernard Kelly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Onni said: With regards to pinning the ratlines to the side of the hull I have a friend who uses this method for his ships but uses only two pins to fix them in place. I could say it looks a bit fiddly method but then again I have never tried it myself. Cutting the hull down the centre line does create problems with the fixing of the masts later on. I have a feeling that if you use just wire on one side to fix the masts then they could swing around all over the place. I usually cut down the centre line but scoot around the mast areas so leaving that area solid and insert a complete deck over the cut to hide it,in other words a false deck. That really needs to be planned for at the beginning of the build though! I am guilty of taking off on this one without having a real solid plan. That is a great idea, scooting around the mast with the initial cut. I am slightly concerned with movement of the pins as well. I think though if I notch the wood slightly and the glue it in, it may be stable enough. The fore and mizzen will only have to be secure enough until the top sides are clamped around them. As far as the ratlines, I was going to search through here and see what has worked best for folks and take that tack. Two pins would be easier I think. Thanks for your input, I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Posted April 13, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, exwafoo said: I split mine off centre, usually with the stem and stern piece on the starboard side so any less than good joints are on the 'offside'. I've used the fixing the chainwales in the bottle method once, and I'm still trying to get the last one in place 2 and a half years later. I would use control lines to pull them into position if I ever use this way again. As has been said, its all a learning curve. Stay safe. Makes much more sense to split off center, point taken there. you're scaring me a bit with your prior chainwale troubles. I originally planned on no pins, but pulling masts into place with threads run under the hull. I actually have the underside of the hull hollowed out so it's possible to do some alternatives. I just have to figure out what that is. Thanks for your input, I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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