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  1. I do that sort of thing all the time. I'm sure I drive my wife nuts. One thing to watch for with plastaline, if it heats to long is it starts to separate and you get a greenish white film at the top. It's never to bad and not anything you can't mx in but it happens. The worst I ever had it was when I put the whole bottle in the oven and not just on the burner. I'm only seeing small hints of it on yours so your probably fine. Love the wave tool idea. I need to make me one of those.
  2. Looks like a good start. Also enjoying the amount of flies in the background. Did you tie all of those?
  3. I could see that working really well. Maybe take out the middle dividers and you could fit a Hubbard jig in it. That may give you more flexibility than my treasure box design. The problem I had was once masts get over a certain point I was unable to close the box. I think that was the case for my Scavenger build. I think you could lay a Hubbard jig on its side with the ship in tact and the box would still protect it. You would have to make sure the jig is secured in the box so if it turned over the weight of the jig is not resting on the masts. The length of the box might give you more space for taller models. Shoot I may just build me one of these.
  4. This one comea from Don Hubbards book Ships in Bottles. Whats good about this is it raises the ship up. One of the problems I've had is builing looking down at the model gives me a bad neck ache. Raising the ship up helps that. I did my own variation. You can see it in this article. https://piratesurgeon.com/pages/other_pages/mercury_bottle1.html Basically the same but in a box. I needed to transport my ship to model ship meetings and having it in a box was useful. The top of the box is very high so the masts fit inside.
  5. This is good to know. I've had some offending super glue marks that I've picked off with a razor blade on wire but I think acetone will make it much much easier. Thanks Alan.
  6. I used to have that super power too. I was near sighted from 2nd grade and wore glasses and contacts most my life. Building Sibs I'd push my glasses down and look over them. I could see anything up close with no trouble at all. Last year I got Lasik and lost my super power. Now I'm using magnifiers like the rest of the "normal" people.
  7. Thanks for the advice Alan. I'm going to look that stuff up. I don't normally have a problem with super glue. I've used it on a lot of my ships in bottles and typically as long as I don't bottle it seal it for about 15 minutes it's no an issue. I think what little fog I got on this one had to do with the smaller opening not allowing the fumes out and mostly because I had to use more than I normally would. Most of my ships are prebuilt and erected in the bottle. So I'll use three to four tiny dabs of glue on the bowsprit and that's it. Since this one had to be pieced together in the bottle I used quiet a bit more and had a small problem with fogging. I've cleaned it up and it hasn't come back. I do wonder to though if I have the dry and sparse Denver air to thank for that. My house sits over a mile high in elevation so maybe there is not as much air for the fumes to stick to on their way out of the bottle? Who knows. I am interested in the other type of glue though. I hadn't heard of using acetone to clean up the glass. Can you elaborate on how you do that?
  8. All done. Added a little flair to make it fun.
  9. Well my initial thought didnt work. I painted in the bottom of the bulb but the paint just wouldnt dry. I let it sit all night and it dried a little but it probably woukd take two or three days. After discovering that the original bottle had clay I thought I may as well try. I have quiet a few bulbs so if I lose one its not a big deal. Well the clay worked perfectly. I kept it flat like it was and even painted the wave lines in the same way. The hardest part was that this bottle has a much smaller opening than the original. The sails would not fit in one piece. So I ended up cutting off the largest sails and glueing them back on in the bottle. It was tricky but I got it. Heres a photo of the ship now in the bottle. I think because the opening is so small the glue fumes werent able to get out and its fogged up the bottle. I'll have to spend some time cleaning it out. I wanted to use a white glue on this because I know white glue lasts a long time and doesn't fume. Problem is I needed to glue the sails in the right place and couldn't hold them there long enough for white glue t setso I used super glue since it dries fast but has fumes. You win some you lose some.
  10. Jeff - I'm actually thinking a painted sea with a card board base. Kind of like what I did with my old HMS Bounty build. You can see a build log on that here. https://www.folkartinbottles.com/workshop/building-the-hms-bounty/149-daniel-siemens-building-log It was quiet a while ago and not my best work. I should probably redo it. Similar concept though the boat would sit on the cardboard see and under it would be painted glass. Here's an example before the glass was painted. This is the technique I thought this bottle had followed before I got into the clay. It makes the ship in bottle very light weight in comparison to the clay sea method. The trickiest part will be painting the sea. I need to paint it right to the line where the cardboard sea will sit and not any further. I'm debating adding waves. The original was very flat. Problem is I could go on for days adding details but thats not what I'm after in a restoration. I need to keep it close to how it was originally built. So I may just leave it flat. As far as yards it does have them. They are glued directly to the paper and don't attach to the mast as the paper sail is glued to the mast. This is a classic manufacturing design. Very simplified and made to make a lot of these sibs very quickly. The hull would be placed in the base and the masts with sails intact would be glued to the hull one at a time inside the bottle. Then the ends of the forestays holding the jib are glued to the side of the bow sprit. Those fore stays are the only pieces of rigging on this ship and they only exist to hold sails. Once I have the sea done the rest of this build will be very fast.
  11. Some one sent this little ship to me asking for it to be repaired. I'd love to get into ship in a bottle repair in general so a simple one like this is good practice. Its appears to be a mass produced piece that are often sold in gift shops. Some modelers get picky about that but I don't care. If it has sentimental value to some one its worth restoring. This is how she arrived. The two sails fell off in transit but they are easy to fix. My initial thought was this was in a globe style bottle with the opening on the bottom so the ship was completley enclosed. Getting into it this was not the case. There is a clay sea under the ship and the glass was complete enclosed and glued to the base. Its interesting that the top of the sea was a different material. It seemed to be a clay or maybe rubber. It was glued down to the clay base with some sort of rubber cement type glue. The ship was glued down to this rubber/clay top sea. The ship was held in pretty well and the rubber/clay piece had to be taken apart in order to get the ship out. I was hoping to save it but the ship had to come out to fit it into a new bottle. So I'll redo the sea. After night work heres the pieces to be kept. The two masts with sails, the hull and bowsprit, and the wood base. Once I find a bottle I'll recreate the sea and put it all back together again. Looking at the glass I think it was in a Christmas ornamate type globe bottle. The glass was very thin. Figures its a month after December. I'll have to see if Hobby Lobby still has some on clearance.
  12. I think you should keep posting on going build logs. Part of the fun and challenge of this hobby is mistake recovery. That isnt always shown in build logs that are done after completion. I think its important for others to see that mistakes can be made and fixed a long the way. Also I want every one to feel comfortable asking how to recover from mistakes. Its a major part of learning this hobby. That said its also true the trash can is one of the most important tools and it is hard to share mistakes for the whole world to see. Do what is best for you.
  13. Well good and bad news. Good news is nothings changing. Bad news is the hosting site I found over promised and under delivered. While the monthly fees would be lower they left out a major component. The forum software. They are unable to convert our forum from its current software to theirs. If we did use them we would have to rebuild the forum from scratch under their software. I don't see that as a viable option. When all was said and done it was cheaper to leave things as is. So for now thats what I'll do. Thank you all for your support. I really appreciate it and I'll keep looking for ways to stretch our dollars out so I can make the most out of your generous donations. We'll keep this forum going a long time yet.
  14. I think she's looking really good.
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