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    Hi, I joined the forum last January to get hints about putting a ship in a bottle. I have plans of the Duyfken, a little ship who sailed to Australia with Dutch explorers in the early 1600. I visited the replica a few years before and had that project in my head since. I am quite happy with it, although it's far from being at the level of some of the masterpieces I have seen on this forum. I do a bit of small wood carving and I decided to carve the Duyfken out of a piece of boxwood. It has been a long learning road with many challenges, the masts, the rigging, the planking, the painting, the sails and the sea which I made out of fimo, until I had a go at launching it yesterday. Cheers!
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    Then I tried to install a couple of these blocks in their places. Unfortunately now I see my mistake in the design of the mast
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    The end of construction. Artur
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    Life has got in the way of my hobbies since my last post, renovations/painting on the house, washing machine cratered; my eldest son slipped a disc in his back, work is busy, and we finally got my youngest son’s 73 Nova SS on the road. So henceforth no man cave time whatsoever. Today I finally got back into the build and started on all of the yards/spars and built myself a gizmo from an old Phillips shaver to taper the ends on the yards and spars. First two pictures is the work started for the upper cross trees. Last post I was developing my technique for gluing however I need to refine it as I didn't like how it turned out after I painted one. Next 2 pictures is the gizmo I built from the can motor and Frankenstein power supply. Inside the shaver is a step down transformer from 110 AC to 6 volt D.C. I mounted the transformer in a box and the can motor on a swiveling pedestal. The stone is from a Dremel tool glued to the little blue ring gear. Next picture is start of all of the spar and yard work. Sewing Needles and extremely small diameter wire for the aforementioned. Next picture is the upper cross-tree and the braces I have to model coming off of the tree to keep the standing rigging from fouling with the yards. Last picture is the upper Forecastle area with the port and starboard running lights installed. I want to get some detail work done on the Forecastle area and slowly pick away at the upper cross-trees. Also my youngest son got me back into playing chess which is very cool. More to come eventually ... Jeff
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    Nearly finished now, but I am getting quite tired of it. It has been dragging on since November - far too long! Bob
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    Many thanks, Jeff! Yesterday I tried another technology for making blocks. This block has a pulley and its length is 2.5 mm. Perhaps for someone this information will be useful. Now I want to try to make a smaller block using this technology. Also I need to make double and triple blocks.
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    IJN Yamashiro, 1941, 1/1800 Scale The upper hull was 3D printed, lower hull scratch built from styrene. Various PE parts such as searchlights, cram hooks, searchlight platform structures, railings, awning supports, etc. Rigging is ShelfOddity wire, the Aichi E13A floatplane was scratch built from stainless steel.
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    Brings to mind the old adage "Measure twice, cut once." Oh well, as you say it happens, we just have to roll with it. --- Well, after a lot of work and a bit of blasphemy on my part, the Britannic's finished, all sealed up in her bottle and ready to go to a good home where someone will enjoy her. It was a difficult road, as the rigging ended up getting horribly tangled, so I had to remove the Marconi aerial to get it untwisted, and it took a bit of work re-attaching the spars that hold it up, but I managed to sort it out, and I ended up having to make a new gantry davit as one snapped when I was struggling to get the #4 funnel attached, but I got that sorted and all the funnels in, so all in all I'm very happy with how she turned out. So, I suppose it's on to the next project after a day or two of rest away from the shop.
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    All, Thanks for your interest, kind comments, questions over the SIB and concern over my hand. I was moving a large patio plant tub by tipping it on edge and rolling it like you do with a barrel and got my hand trapped between it and a wall. Bruised,swollen and stiff for a while. The stiffness lasted, making holding small bits hard, but its just the pinky now, not much use for modeling anyway. I've uploaded some more phots, one with a ruler to show size. I basically measured the inside of the bottle and shrunk the plans to suit, so I haven't actually got a scale. I've started the mainmast, but its only loosely put together to show a general make up, no glue as yet other than the styrene top. A trial cannon on deck - it needs to be a bit higher I made up a couple of jigs a few years ago for making Hinckley Hinges. There is a mast drilling jig in ‘Ship Models in Glass’ that allows accurate drilling. I adapted this so an off centre hole could be drilled. The male and female halves of the hinge are started in this. A line of holes are centre drilled in one piece (female) and then the offset is used to drill a line of holes, then the mast is rotated through 180 degrees and another line of holes is drilled producing the male half. The second jig is a piece of square section brass with a screw to hold the work piece and the end formed at 45 degrees. A 0.5 mm wide saw blade is used to clear out the female half with the jig guiding the cut to 45 degrees. The sides of the male half are trimmed down and the mitres cut. A bit of fettling to get the fit, I then used the sanding jig to reduce the thickness to 1.mm. If anyone wants the full article I wrote on this for Bottleship, PM me and I'll send it on. The cabin windows were cut from styrene sheet. I crosshatched a piece of thin clear sheet from a bit of packaging with a sharp blade, coated it with black dry marker, let it dry and then wiped off, leaving the scores black. Coloured the other side yellow, and glued to the window frames. The wheel is a watch cog. More soon Alan
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    I won the gold medal in qualifying for the European Championship in Bulgaria. Pozdrawiam Artur
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    This ones about done but I thought I'd share. I'm starting to get into war gaming so I thought if make a fleet. This is my first model for that. As a war gaming model she won't be bottled. Still got to come up with rules but I thought I'd put a fleet together first.
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    Yesterday I installed the sail hanks on one of the sails
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    Ahoy all! Just thought I'd share a few Work-In-Progress shots my latest project, a SIB model of the Britannic, the "forgotten sister" of the famed RMS Titanic, and the third and final member of the Olympic-class, which were built by Harland and Wolff of Northern Ireland at the behest of the Oceanic Steam Navigation Company AKA the White Star Line, in response to Cunard's twin giants Lusitania and Mauretania. The Britannic was originally intended to be the ultimate expression of what the Olympic-class ships were supposed to be, thoroughly re-engineered to benefit from the Titanic tragedy, having been modified to have a double hull along the length of the boiler and engine room compartments, and her watertight bulkheads having been significanly raised (one or two going up to the very top of the ship), meaning she could stay afloat with the first six compartments fully flooded, compared to Titanic's design of only four (five ended up being breached by the iceberg. These improvements, along with plenty of lifeboats and new giant gantry davits to lower them, being able to swing over to the opposite side of the ship if necessary, prompted shipbuilding magazines of the time to label her "The most perfect specimen of man's creative power as is possible to conceive". Alas, Britannic was fated never to carry a paying passenger, for she was requisitioned by the Royal Navy and completed as a hospital ship for service ferrying wounded and sick military personnel back to Britain during the Gallipoli Campaign of WW1. Britannic was subsequently lost on November 21st, 1916, the now-accepted cause being that she struck a mine laid by the German U-73, with the loss of 30 lives, having sunk in 55 minutes. As for the model, as I've stated elsewhere on the forums, I like to make SIB's that are unusual, and that I favor steam and motor ships as these are relatively under-represented as compared to SIB's of sailing vessels. As I've already made Titanic and her tender Nomadic, it seemed only natural to start "rounding out the family" by making a SIB of the Britannic too. These photos represent the current state of the model, being approximately 70% complete, with the hull and superstructure mostly finished. All that's left to do is apply the final detail parts such as hatches, cargo cranes, the anchors and anchor chains, the crow's nest, rudder, flags, etc., then it'll be time to rig the ship's masts and Marconi aerials with thread, then to do the painting and apply the smoke for the funnels before the final dismantling and re-assembly inside the bottle. I'll be posting up further photos and commentary as the work progresses, please feel free to comment or constructively critique as you see fit. Cheers, Brendan O.
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    Well. Gotta rework some things. The bundle of masts and spars made the ship to big for the bottle. I'm thinking of taking the fore mast off and reworking it similar to Igors method. It'll be a hybrid with two folding masts and one separate. Which is less work than redoing all of the rigging.
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    Hi to all! Little progress in those last weekend... At first I continued to "train" in making blocks for Jolie
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    Hi to everyone! Next small update. I worked on blocks at last weekend's. I made a couple dozen the single blocks.
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    Okay, final assembly and painting's done, working on getting it into the bottle as of this writing, it's proved a bit of a tight fit, and I ended up having to almost completely disassemble the rigging in order for both parts of the ship to go in, as the masts on an Olympic-class ship are on different levels, one on the superstructure, one on the hull, so it's not as simple as just lowering the masts and sliding in the hull. I've also had to wait to put on the four red crosses that go onto the superstructure (on the real ship, these lit up at night to show all other vessels that the ship was a hospital ship and thus was a non-combatant) due to clearance reasons, so they aren't in the attached pictures. All in all, I think I'll have to do some thinking and maybe a little bit of a redesign for the next time I do an Olympic-class ship. Been so long since doing the Titanic I've forgotten the tricks I used that time, and even then I remember it being a bit tricky as the Britannic is proving to be as well. Oh well, it'll get done one way or another, and I'll be putting up the pics of the final results when I get to them. Cheers Lads, Brendan O.
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    Hi to everyone! Some small progress. At first I have established the main sail.
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    I'm back to modeling. Artur
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    Thanks ever so much for the link, Sapper, pretty well exactly what I was looking for and then some, even found a nifty little article from Popular Mechanics on how to do a submerged submarine in bottle! I've done a sub already, but it was on the surface as I was still puzzling out how to make it look like it was underwater at the time, which the article handily provided. Another resource I've come across on my own is Shipbucket. It's technically a site about making color profile drawings of ships using computer programs like Paint to a set scale and format. Mostly about military ships, but there is a large collection of merchant ships from many nations, and the list keeps getting bigger all the time. On the downside, there's only the side view for most of them, but for most ships I think that'll do, can always supplement the profile with photos and other reference material if I can find it to see what the ship looks like from the top down and from the other angles. I'll be looking into acquiring some of the books that have been mentioned as the ol' budget and time allows, for they sound great and they'd be neat books to have even if I don't get around to making all the ships in them. Thanks again, lads! --- Igor, The Brendan Voyage huh? I suppose that would be about Brendan the Navigator (no relation, more's the pity!) then? Brought a smile to my face all the same, and I certainly appreciate you going to the trouble of looking through your archives, thanks very much! Brendan O.
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    Then I installed the blocks for the rigging of the gaffel. The scheme is, of course, simplified in comparison with the original
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    Jesse, I make the smoke by using cotton balls, usually just cut slivers off of them using scissors, then I tease and fluff the slivers out with my fingers until they look all puffy like drifting smoke. Then I just glue them to the tops of the funnels, and after I get the funnels on the ship inside the bottle, I use a rod or one my homemade tools made from baling wire to re-arrange the smoke so the plumes are angled in the same direction. In Britannic's case, I'm depicting her having the wind blowing across her beam from port to starboard, so the smoke (and the flags) are angled to the right. Sometimes I color the smoke black to represent coal smoke, heavy firing conditions in the boiler rooms, bad fuel/improper firing/clogged up flues, etc., in which case I dye the cotton using a marker or some diluted india ink, or spray paint some pillow/teddy bear type stuffing (usually get that at Walmart along with the cotton balls). The trick is not to put too much smoke on, as it can obscure the ship and all the details. Besides funnel smoke, I use the same methods to make muzzle flashes for the guns of warships in battle, I just use less material. Hope all this helps! Brendan O.
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    Thanks for the ideas. I've never done this before and am looking for something simple to begin on. I look at some of the ships that other people have posted, I must day there are some extremely talented people and very wonderful pieces.
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    You know google images isnt half bad. Just type in what ever ship name and plans and something Ussually comes up. At our scale images online can work fine. Here's one for the Golden Hind. Ive thought of doing this ship. https://www.google.com/search?q=golden+hind+plans&safe=strict&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=ismvn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi03eO_htjUAhUCLmMKHY5ZBU0Q_AUICSgB&biw=360&bih=518
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    Hey Al, sorry to hear about the hand. The wife and myself went to see the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie last week and it was a hoot! Cool scene of the Pearl in a SIB. Love the jig and good use of the watch gear for the ships wheel. The polystyrene trim is nice and crisp well done!
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    Have you had a look at www.rodlangton.com. I've got some of his 1/1200 ships on the slipway, and jumped straight in and put together HMS Victory. The hulls are white metal, so are the masts. Choice of white metal or PE brass for the sail. There are even PE ratlines and shrouds. There are also a couple of books on painting and assembly which are worth thinking about, especially the rigging section. I'm slowly building the 1/300 brig that I was given as a present, based on a cruzier class. I'll stick up some photos in a couple of days. There are buildings and harbour 'stuff' as well, and I believe there is a book of rules for gaming. The use of metal allows a certain robustness for constant handling, and of course, sib skills can be used to improve things. Alan
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    I have never seen such a small working block! How in the world do you do such micro work? Wow! Jesse
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    Seeing this reminds me of something I've been thinking about. Could we start a topic (in the proper place) in which different people explain and show in detail how to make the smoke? How did you do it Brendan? Jesse
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    She's great. I've learned it can be better not to compare my work to others. Absolutely learn from others and try to emulate what I like about others work but, every one is on their own path. If your ship is better then the last then your doing great. Even the greatest modelers are critical of their own work and hope the next will be better. In that way we're all the same.
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    I am new to this and am looking for a place on the web to find plans to carve small ships. I drive truck so I don't have room for books. Any advice would be appreciated.
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    Do you know the website "folk art in bottles"? Here you can find some plan drawings
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    Exciting. Its fun to see it all cone together.
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    For a good beginning model look at sloop. Bermuda sloop are fun if you like something with cannons. They're a good start because they only have one mast.
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    A book doesn't take up all that much space, and you can always get one from a library, copy the plan, and take it back. There are plans here, such as this one: http://www.bottledshipbuilder.com/index.php?/topic/262-going-for-gold-build-bessie/#comment-2373 I would recommend something like the above coasting ketch to begin with, as merchant ships are far less complicated than warships, not having guns or much in the way of decoartion. Sadly, they are very unpopular though. Bob
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    Thank you very much for congratulations to Igor and DSiemens Artur
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    Hi Jkhorton! I agree with Daniel. There are many sites with drawings on the Internet. But I think that first you can determine the type of ship that you want to build. For example, it could be a schooner, a yacht, a caravel or something else. Then it will be much easier to find the drawings.
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    Glue. Go figure...that makes a lot of sense. I have a project that's fallen way down the list of things I'd like to do involving bottling the Gajoa in a bottle I found. The inside is stained by some sort of chemical I can't get off but it looks a lot like frost. It would be fun to put a ship sailing through ice in it. I will keep this glue in mind if ever I get around to that project. It's looking good. It will be very hard to tell how you got it in the bottle once you're done.